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	<title>Comments on: The Productivity - Wages Pendulum Swings</title>
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		<title>By: Open_Sourcerer</title>
		<link>http://www.unitedprofessionals.org/blog/2006/11/05/the-productivity-wages-pendulum-swings/#comment-642</link>
		<dc:creator>Open_Sourcerer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several thoughts.

If a newspaper prints a "bad" editorial, or does not have its facts straight, one can send a letter to the editor, and they usually will publish your letter.  How does one correct the entire Associated Press?

Manuel - you compare apples to oranges.  Your displaced IT worker friend may be making more than you (a public school educator) make in the US, but what is he making compared to other IT professionals (with identical skillsets) in the US?

For example:  Let's assume that the few IT people still working here, doing the same work as your friend, get paid $90K/year.  Let's also assume that your job is $59K/year (I have no idea what educators make, nowadays).  If your IT friend has moved to China for a $60K job, then he is still making more than you, but taking a 33% pay cut just to have a job.  That is the statistic I would be more interested in - apples to apples.  What did he used to make (or was positioned to make) working here in the USA, before everything went downhill (or across the ocean)?

Final thought:  A friend of mine said this a while back:  We are living in the "age of no accountability."  Anybody can say anything they want in the media, without it matching the facts at all.

I think that the Internet has something to do with that.  Anybody can post a web page anywhere that says **anything** (true or not).  I think that this is less a case in blogs, as the two-way nature of blogs allow people to challange other people's facts (or lack thereof).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several thoughts.</p>
<p>If a newspaper prints a &#8220;bad&#8221; editorial, or does not have its facts straight, one can send a letter to the editor, and they usually will publish your letter.  How does one correct the entire Associated Press?</p>
<p>Manuel - you compare apples to oranges.  Your displaced IT worker friend may be making more than you (a public school educator) make in the US, but what is he making compared to other IT professionals (with identical skillsets) in the US?</p>
<p>For example:  Let&#8217;s assume that the few IT people still working here, doing the same work as your friend, get paid $90K/year.  Let&#8217;s also assume that your job is $59K/year (I have no idea what educators make, nowadays).  If your IT friend has moved to China for a $60K job, then he is still making more than you, but taking a 33% pay cut just to have a job.  That is the statistic I would be more interested in - apples to apples.  What did he used to make (or was positioned to make) working here in the USA, before everything went downhill (or across the ocean)?</p>
<p>Final thought:  A friend of mine said this a while back:  We are living in the &#8220;age of no accountability.&#8221;  Anybody can say anything they want in the media, without it matching the facts at all.</p>
<p>I think that the Internet has something to do with that.  Anybody can post a web page anywhere that says **anything** (true or not).  I think that this is less a case in blogs, as the two-way nature of blogs allow people to challange other people&#8217;s facts (or lack thereof).</p>
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		<title>By: Manuel Mejia, Jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manuel Mejia, Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings:

Now the elections are done, the predictions made by Greenhouse and Leonhardt seem to have come true.  The Republican party has lost vast sums of clout aong the electorate.

Whether there is a reverse in the trend towards lower wages will NOT depend on the outcome of this election.  It may be a useful start, but the fact is that the trend was going on for some years before the current administration.  However, the fact that the current administration did nothing to address issues like the minimum wage factored in to the political shakeup.

The job offshoring issue does open a rather interesting trend--a growth of expats working at offshored jobs.  One aquaintance who trained for the now extinct US Info-Tech industry is leaving the US to work in the People's Republic of China !  After listening to the terms of the contract, he will make MORE money in US dollars than I will make working as a public school educator !

During the Depression of the 1930s, many more well off but unemployed Americans ended up in Europe working at various occupations.  Some stayed 10 years until Hitler sent his armies forth in 1939.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings:</p>
<p>Now the elections are done, the predictions made by Greenhouse and Leonhardt seem to have come true.  The Republican party has lost vast sums of clout aong the electorate.</p>
<p>Whether there is a reverse in the trend towards lower wages will NOT depend on the outcome of this election.  It may be a useful start, but the fact is that the trend was going on for some years before the current administration.  However, the fact that the current administration did nothing to address issues like the minimum wage factored in to the political shakeup.</p>
<p>The job offshoring issue does open a rather interesting trend&#8211;a growth of expats working at offshored jobs.  One aquaintance who trained for the now extinct US Info-Tech industry is leaving the US to work in the People&#8217;s Republic of China !  After listening to the terms of the contract, he will make MORE money in US dollars than I will make working as a public school educator !</p>
<p>During the Depression of the 1930s, many more well off but unemployed Americans ended up in Europe working at various occupations.  Some stayed 10 years until Hitler sent his armies forth in 1939.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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